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Kat Foster Interview: We Talk to the ‘Jean-Claude Van Johnson’ Star About Becoming an Action Hero and Accidentally Kicking JCVD in the Face

Jean-Claude Van Johnson is the new must-see series from Amazon. Trust us, if you like action, self-referential comedy and heartfelt moments then this show is for you. The series stars the very talented Kat Foster as Vanessa, hair-stylist, and ex-flame to Jean-Claude Van Damme, who just happens to be a real life super-spy. He doesn’t get to have all the fun, however, as Vanessa, who also works as his tech support but wants to be so much more, joins him in the field to thwart an evil cartel who plan to take over the world.

Kat Foster is a classically trained theatre actor and dancer, and is best known on screen for her roles in sitcoms such as ‘Till Death, and the dark dramedy Weeds. In JCVJ she gets to fulfil her fantasy of being a full-blown action star, while showing off her considerable dramatic chops, and looks stunning doing it. We were very privileged to catch up with Jean-Claude Van Johnson’s leading lady.

Read on, or listen to the unabridged audio directly below.

 

Congratulations on the show. It’s really awesome.

Thanks. I like it too. I have to say.

What’s the audience reaction been like?

All I’ve heard is great things. I mean, all I’ve heard is just people being really…  I think anyone who’s a fan of Jean-Claude Van Damme is gonna just be into every frame of this entire show. It’s really sort of a love letter to him in a way, both as an actor and an action star. So I don’t know. I mean, I’ve just heard great things. I know the reviews have been kind of mixed. Right? I didn’t expect that and it’s been a little bit disappointing. But I don’t think people necessarily knew exactly what to make of it and how to categorise it.  I mean it’s so silly. Anyone who doesn’t love it, I feel like, doesn’t totally get it. I guess, I kind of feel like there’s nothing not to love about this show. It’s the best that this premise, and the concept, and that we as a team could have ever offered. It’s the best version of itself. It couldn’t have been better, so if you didn’t like it that’s just because you were never gonna like it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Do you think that critics are taking it a bit too seriously and are being a bit too sniffy about it? Because actually fans, and I’m getting this impression a lot, love it. They absolutely love it.

I know. I think so too. Yeah. I honestly I don’t quite know what not to love. I guess if you were comparing it to some literary opus … I mean, relative to action genre TV shows or movies, this is kind of as good as it gets. It has all of the elements. It has amazing action sequences. It has a love story that, from what I can tell, feels very moving, and people have a lot of empathy for Jean-Claude. I mean, we’re both going through these internal journeys. Every character in the show has a massive arc, and it’s funny. It has funny jokes in it and it’s shot beautifully.  I don’t know what the comp is even. I mean, look Guardians of the Galaxy is really good. It’s a really good movie. But I don’t know that we were setting out to make Guardians of the Galaxy. So, anyway I think it’s brilliant and I’m really proud to be on it, and really proud to be a part of it. And I’m proud of everyone’s work on it. And so, whoever doesn’t like it is missing the point I think.

I totally agree with you. It’s six half hour episodes and there’s literally not a second that’s boring. I’ve watched it through twice and both times I’ve just watched the whole thing without stopping. 

Oh that’s so sweet. Thanks. Yeah. I agree. I mean, look I was there the whole time we were making it, and even when I sat down and finally watched it all, I just couldn’t believe how much story there was in every episode. Every episode is so full of just great story, and jokes, and action, and drama. There was just so much in this. It’s so rich to me. The world is so rich. So I’m with you. Yeah. It’s very ambitious actually. You know? Super ambitious.

It’s really funny, but it isn’t just a comedy. It’s got a lot of action in it, but it’s not just that. It’s got quite a lot of depth, doesn’t it? It really gets into the psychology of Jean-Claude Van Damme.

It really does. Yeah, they go into a mind temple. Like, “What?” You know, they delve into his childhood. He has flashbacks. It’s very much about being loved and learning to love ourselves, and learning that self love is all that you need to save the world. There’s lots of layers to this I think.

There are. I’d like to know more about your character, Vanessa, just for our readers and listeners. How would you explain Vanessa?

Well obviously she’s Jean-Claude’s hair girl by day, and ex flame. And then by night, she sort of comes and helps him solve crimes. She’s his partner in crime, and I think for her the journey over the course of this season is very much one of stepping into her own power. She’s always, I think, wanted to be the number one, or certainly really have parity with Jean-Claude, really truly be his partner, and not just be the girl in the hotel doing the recon work, but also really be on the field with him. But she was told by her father when she was young that that wasn’t the road that she could take. That she wasn’t capable, and that it wasn’t right for her. That she should just be an engineer because that’s what she was good at. But she always wanted something more, so the season is about her seeking that, and training for that, and becoming that.

It has a good female empowerment message, doesn’t it? 

For sure. I mean, I think that’s one of the most awesome things. It’s not really being discussed very much, but I think one of the most amazing things about this show that makes it so current and so relevant is that it is a female empowerment story. We’re in a time right now where women are stepping into their power in a very public way, and certainly the story of Vanessa in this first season of Jean-Claude Van Johnson really reflects that. You know? I mean this is exactly what she’s doing. She’s saying enough is enough. It’s not all about these men who can do everything, and I’m no longer gonna be in second place, and I’m ready, and I wanna save the world too. And I’m capable, and I know that it’s hard, but I’m willing to dig deep, and I’m willing to look inside, and I’m willing to train, and I’m willing to do all that it takes ’cause I know that I can do it too.

That’s really interesting. There was a gap between the pilot and then the show continuing beyond that. And in that very first episode, you’re set very much up as Jean-Claude’s love interest. But when the rest of the series plays out, that aspect of the story takes a back seat and it becomes more about you becoming his trainee, and then his equal, and then almost surpassing him at the end. I thought that was very clever.

Yeah. I did too. And it’s surprising, and kind of a relief, because what we usually see at the end of the story, what we would expect, is he saves the world, and then he rescues me, and then we walk off together into the sunset. And actually, in some ways, I rescue him, and we don’t walk off together into the sunset. He does his own thing. And I am going off to fight whatever enemies are still living. So it really is kind of a wonderful reversal in that way, although of course we both save the world. You know, without his splits…

His gift.

Without his gift, then the helicopter could have flown away. So we are partners. The story is one of real equality, real parity, between Jean-Claude and I.

The show’s so out there. It really does do some wild things. How was it explained to you before you actually took the role? How did they manage to get you to understand what this was going to be?

They didn’t, honestly. All that really existed was the pilot and I read the pilot, and I remember just thinking this is the funniest, weirdest thing I’ve read. It’s so funny, and strange, and cool, and kitschy, and novel. But I would have had no idea where it would have gone. All I know is that when we found out we got a series pick up, when we found out we would be shooting more episodes, the director said to me get into martial arts training immediately. (Laughs). And I was like, “Oh, that’s interesting. Great. I’m in.” But in terms of the time travel stuff, and the weather [control device] … I never would have guessed it would go in these kind of crazy, wild places, and yet those elements in the story make perfect sense given the genre and also given the meta-genre.  We’re commenting on classic movies from all time, on classic story lines for action movies and hero’s journeys, and so it makes sense that there’s somebody trying to do weather control. It makes sense that there’re all these crazy elements.

Do you feel as if you got to be in a James Bond movie, and the Fast and the Furious, and all these other things all in one go?

Yeah, I totally did. And Alias, right? Every day was a different hair and makeup look. It was really fun. There were so many different looks and roles and attitudes that I got to explore. It was so fun.

You almost got to be in Timecop and Double Impact as well didn’t you?

Totally.

You seem to be the sanest character in the show and could almost be seen as the audience surrogate within the story, in that you’re the person who sort of anchors it all together. I was wondering how you approached that?

You know, that’s a good question. The way I approached this role is the same way that I approach every role, in the sense that I’m just looking for truth. I’m just looking for some honesty, and it was very clear that the comedy was in the text and that I didn’t need to play funny unless somebody asked me to be funny. I mean, my background is very much in comedy and sitcoms and doing big. But before that I was a theatre actress, so it’s easy for me to kind of turn it on and turn it off. We would joke, “Do you want me to do the TBS version of this line or should I do the FX version?” So we were aware of tone the whole time, but it was very clear to me from the beginning, just from meeting Jean-Claude, that very naturally with him, I am the straight man.

When we’re together on the screen and off, he is Jean-Claude Van Damme and I’m Kat Foster. What I mean by that, is just that I fall very naturally in our dynamic into the grounded sort of truth, the role of the grounded truth teller. It’s just sort of a natural thing that happens because he’s thinking a lot, and he’s in his head, and he’s  processing things and so it just felt always very natural for me to kind of keep the whole situation very … I don’t know … quiet, or to hold it. I just felt very caring of him from the minute that I met him, and then I felt some responsibility to be very available to him if that makes sense. So I think that’s what you see. That’s what comes across. And he’s, by the way, an extremely grounded actor himself. But I think our dynamic together is one where I’m more of the feeler. I’m more of the relating point. The audience would  see him through my eyes, I think. I feel like I’m a Jean-Claude translator a little bit.

He’s actually a wonderful actor, isn’t he? Did you expect him to be as good as that?

I had no idea what I was getting into. I honestly was not super familiar with his work. But I watched Double Impact, and I watched JCVD. And I could tell from Double Impact that he was great and that he was funny. And then watching JCVD, I was blown away. I was like, “Oh he’s really a talented, feeling actor.” From that, I sort of could guess that we were gonna have a really nice time working with each other, and then once we got on set, my suspicions were confirmed. I mean, he’s really into telling the truth and he’ll do whatever it takes to do that. He’ll stay in the scene until he feels like we have a genuine connection or that we’ve really told the story that this dialogue is meant to tell. It’s nice.

Yeah. I was thinking while watching it of JCVD. It feels like JCVD sort of turned up to 11. It’s doing something similar, but other things as well.

It’s funnier, right, than JCVD is? It’s more self aware than JCVD. I mean I think what you said is right. It is JCVD in so many ways because it’s Jean-Claude Van Damme playing himself in this very heightened situation. It’s a magnified version of JCVD in a way. Yeah.

You sort of preempted my next question really, which is how close is the correlation between the JCVD that you met and got to know during filming, and the JCVD that’s presented on the screen?

It’s close. It’s really close. In a weird way, I think Jean-Claude is almost more himself on the TV than he is in real life. You know what I mean? The only thing that I feel like the series doesn’t totally capture is his playfulness. As a person, Jean-Claude Van Damme is very playful. He’s almost boyish. I mean, he goes back and forth as we all do, but there’s this one aspect of his personality that’s very playful and excited still about martial arts and kind of dorks out about fighting, and, you know, has fun. He has a lot of fun off screen, and of course in the series he’s very serious the whole time. But I think that what you see in the show is really what he is in his core. I mean, I think he really does very much play himself and he kind of like opens his chest for the world to see.

Were you surprised by how willing he was to make himself look silly? Because if you go back through his career, he obviously is a very accomplished martial artist, and his career has taken all kinds of strange turns over the years. And now, he seems very willing, as you say to open his chest, but he’s also happy to put on a blonde wig and a goatee and just make himself look silly in a very good way.

Yeah. Maybe that is the playfulness coming up on screen. His willingness to do that. And I also just think that he’s a very physical actor for obvious reasons, and I think he puts on the clothes of Philippe, or he puts on the disguise for the race, or anything. He very easily sort of becomes these other characters. I think both Jean-Claude and I, and probably everyone who worked on the show, had such trust for Peter Atencio, our director, and for the crew, and for the creators, and for Scott Free who produced it, Ridley Scott’s company. I think we all knew that as silly as we could be, it was all gonna be very grounded and truthful in the end. I think we all felt a lot of freedom. We all felt like we could be very silly and in terms of Jean-Claude, I think there’s something very freeing about kind of making fun of yourself sometimes. And I think he’s earned that freedom. I think he understands that freedom. I can’t speak for him, but I imagine that it’s a relief to expose ourselves to criticism. It’s a relief to say, hey I know what you guys say about me and I’m gonna make fun of it too. Instead of being ashamed of what the public might think, to kind of harness their scrutiny and join the fun. There’s something really empowering about that and I think Jean-Claude feels that.

There’s one very emotional scene. I think it’s in the penultimate episode, where he’s saying that nobody loves Jean-Claude Van Varenberg, but everybody loves Jean-Claude Van Damme. It’s a beautiful scene. I was wondering what that scene was like for you to play?

He’s very moving as a figure, as a character. I just remember meeting him the first time and I was told he would be very … that he was nervous to meet me, which I thought was so strange. ‘Cause why would Jean-Claude Van Damme be nervous to meet me? Me? You know what I mean? But then he really was nervous to meet me, and I remember that being really endearing actually, and kind of moving because what I wanted to do was really hold his hand and say, “Dude, you’re Jean-Claude Van Damme. Your life is good. You’ve done some amazing things and you’re talented, in acting, and in martial arts, and you have a great family. You have a body of work. You have money. You have fame. You have so many great things.” And I don’t know. That’s sort of where that scene resonated with me because it was like he was exposing his shame to me, and what I wanted more than anything in that moment as both myself and Vanessa, in the way that this is so meta, this show, what I wanted was to take care of him, and to tell him that everything is okay, that he’s okay, that he is loved. He is loved no matter whatever he thinks. It’s okay, you know. It was easy.

What sort of martial arts training did you have to do for this show, because you really get very physical in this?

I know. I did a lot actually. I worked with this trainer named Rob Alonzo. He was hired by the stunt coordinator Casey O’Neill. I had danced. I started in ballet when I was very young, so I had some background in being physical and I’ve taken a little bit of boxing. But that was pretty much the extent of my fight training up to that point. Well of course college and stuff like stage combat or whatever. And so, we started really from the basics, with punching and kicking, and Rob Alonzo, the trainer, was amazing. He’s a legitimate fighter. He learned how to fight when he was ten or whatever. And he wanted me to feel that experience, that I wasn’t just throwing a punch because that was the choreography, but he wanted me to see why I would make that move in that particular situation. So yeah, we kind of worked like that. And also with the knife training, like learning how to stab, and block, and slice, and do all of those things. It was legit. We did a lot of stuff. It was nice, and I would have done more too. I really enjoyed it the whole time.

Yeah. So are you now were a lethal weapon yourself?

(Laughs). Sure. Yes.

Okay, I’ll remember that.

Just say yes… No. But I will say that when I was working on the show I got really good at butterfly knife tricks. I also, as we were shooting, and filming, and practicing these fights, I became very vigilant in my real life, much more than I ever have before. I would walk down the street, if I was by myself, or I would think in my car, and all these scenarios would start to run through my mind. Like, what would happen if somebody attacked me right now, or how would I handle it if somebody came running at me, or if I got home and there was a person in the house? I got really kind of weirdly aware of my own safety and what I might do to combat enemies.

You think you could take somebody down if they came at you?

I do kind of feel like I, at this point… I wouldn’t just sort of crumble and I would fight back for sure. Would I be able to fully employ the moves that I learned? Some of them. For sure.

Okay. You just need to keep that butterfly knife near at hand and you’ll be fine.

Exactly. Exactly.

There’s an epic fight scene that you have at the end. How was that to film? What was it like to be involved in a big fight scene like that?

That scene and then the scene where I have my first kill were unbelievably emotional. I would never ever in a million years have anticipated it. I never would have thought that being in a position to take someone’s life, or taking someone’s life, would be so incredibly intimate. Even just as an actor, I was so surprised by how emotional I got, to the point where our director, Peter, really had to be like, “I need to see your anger. I have to see your anger.” Because it was very hard for me to fight and to kill. It just was actually very hard for me and it really felt painful, genuinely painful. And so, Peter and I worked hard to give me that kind of drive, because otherwise I think more of my fear might have come through.

It’s one of the most memorable moments in the show, because you’ve got this look of pure rage on your face as you stab that guy through the heart. It’s really intense.

Yeah. We had to do a bunch of takes because it took me a minute to get there. I mean, honestly what I was fighting against, was my compassion for this person that I was killing. That’s where I went… I can’t believe I’m killing this person. It felt painful to take a life. So we had to kind of bring in that element of rage, because otherwise I was just too sad about it. (laughs) We kind of worked on it, you know.

There’s a similar moment  where you’re having a weapon thrust into your throat and you manage to summon up the energy to fight back. Was that a similar sort of experience?

Very similar. God, again, that was so … that was probably the single hardest, most physically intense, most emotionally intense moment of the entire shoot. That one scene where I’m pushing the sai away from my throat. And then into that moment where I finally prevail. It might be one of the most intense moments I’ve ever had as an actor honestly. Because it was physically intense. I mean she was pushing that into my throat. You know what I mean? We were faking it a little bit, but it was physically very intense against that wall, and just everything that I had been working on, gearing up to that moment, I was really hunted in that moment, and I really felt like I was fighting for my life. It was cool.

It’s there on the screen definitely. Was it intimidating for you to have to do a big action scene or a big fight scene like that in a show that stars Jean-Claude Van Damme?

Yeah, of course. I really, really wanted to do it well. For him. Also I knew where the bar was, and I also just really dig that stuff. I wanted to be able to do it, and I did. I did a lot of it. I mean almost all of it I did. I didn’t run up the wall. That wasn’t me. There are a few things that weren’t me. My stunt double is unbelievable. She should have her own action series. She’s amazing. But, yeah of course I was intimidated by it, but also excited by it. I just wanted to do it justice.

I suppose for an actor, that’s the sort of thing that gets you up in the morning, the idea of being able to get involved in something big and fun like that.

Yeah. The truth is, my whole life I had always fantasised about being an action star.  Honestly my whole life, in the back of my mind, I’m like, I know that I can do that because I’ve had dance. I know that I can move like that. But just given the shape of my career, I never thought that I was gonna get to. But that’s okay, I’ll keep playing moms on sitcoms. I like playing moms on sitcoms. That’s fun too. I also one day wanna be a mom. There’s nothing wrong with that. So when this came to me I was like, “Whoa.” It’s a dream come true that I get to do this stuff. It’s amazing.

That’s awesome. You’ve mentioned that you’re a trained dancer and Jean-Claude did ballet training as a young man. Was that something you bonded over?

I don’t know that we talked about ballet as much, but we did talk a lot about working out, kicking techniques. Jean-Claude always has a lot of pointers for me if he’s anywhere nearby, and because I’m physical and because he’s physical, there were a lot of times … I mean I have pictures of it … where, certainly in the beginning, I would be doing a stretch, and he would come over and he would say “You wanna equal out your hips here.” He’ll give me a pointer, which I love to take. Right? Because he’s Jean-Claude Van Damme. And so I would make an adjustment. He’s always working out on set. We do kind of bond in the way that you see two dancers kind of communicate physically. He and I have a similar thing. He gives me advice on what I’m doing, and I, like an eager student, I’ll watch him and try and emulate him or imitate him. And there was one time on set where during the training that we have where he is actually training me, there was this moment where he was showing me how to kick and he gave me an adjustment. It was something about my hip and I took the adjustment and I actually kicked him in his head. In the side of his head. And the whole … everyone stopped, shocked because I just kicked Jean-Claude Van Damme in his face. And there was this kind of recoil moment and then he of course smiled and sort of took it as a testament to what a great teacher he is, because I took his advice and that’s what enabled me to do that. So I don’t know. It was a very sweet, supportive, I think, fun physical relationship in that way.

The scene that you’re talking about, what you’ve just described, almost reflects what actually happens in the scene, where you take his advice and then you’re able to get the drop on him.

Exactly. That’s exactly right. It happened in real life. It’s true. And I think it was my birthday that that happened. So I’ll always remember that birthday where I kicked Jean-Claude Van Damme in the face.

I was going to ask you about that scene. What was it like to train with him? Was that a very real moment with him actually training you while we’re watching you being trained?

Yeah. He’s very generous with what he knows, and I think any time you have an opportunity to learn from a master, it’s just so exciting. I mean, I have ultimate respect for him in that area. I just lap it up. I want to know anything he has to say. I want any pointers he has, and I would just find myself kind of both imitating him and taking any instruction that he had to give me. It was nice. I was really able to kind of be the humble student, and he stepped into the role of wise master very easily.

Yes. Can I ask you what was it like watching him doing the spinning back kick? That must have been really surreal seeing that happening live in front of you.

I mean it’s all kind of surreal, you know? Watching Jean-Claude Van Damme do his thing is kind of surreal. The most exciting moment for me in the pilot was stepping out of my trailer one day to go shoot something, and there was a fight rehearsal happening in the parking lot of this place we were shooting, outside the trailers, and it was Jean-Claude and then the fight choreographer, and twelve stunt guys. I think it was from the pilot. They were rehearsing that moment from the pilot when they all come at him one at a time. And so the fight choreographer would show the move with the stunt guy to Jean-Claude, and these are not easy moves. These are complex moves. But Jean-Claude would watch it once, be able to do it, perfectly, and then give notes to the stunt choreographer, or the fight choreography, and the stunt guy. He would be able to do it better than both of them. It was so cool because they were also aware of how special it was that they were getting to fight with Jean-Claude Van Damme and watch this master at work. And it was so cool for me because I really felt like I saw him in his true element. This is his background. He is a master. He’s been doing karate since he was eight or whatever. You can really see it. It’s second nature to him to learn these fights and to know these moves. This is his first language.

It’s a very joyous thing to see him still able to do all those moves.

Yeah ’cause it sort of like legitimises everyone’s fandom. You know? And then also I just think there’s just such deliciousness in watching someone who’s a hero, this strong hero, being very vulnerable and personal. I just think it’s such a nice … it feels like a gift to get to see that contrast. Because we don’t get to see that. We don’t get to see what Batman does when he goes home and feels lonely ’cause he hasn’t fought a crime in ten years or whatever. That’s not usually the part of the story that we get. And so we get both in this show.

Do you think it was a very cathartic experience for Jean-Claude then? It seemed to me when I was watching it that the emotions are real.

Totally. I think it’s all real. I think it’s all real. I do think it’s super cathartic. Like we were sort of talking about earlier, I think it’s very relieving for him to expose himself like that, in a way. To have spent so much of his life under so much scrutiny and to kind of say, okay well I’m gonna take it over. I’m gonna give you what you’ve been looking for and I’m gonna have some control over it but still be very vulnerable. I think it’s a real relief to him.

Yeah, it’s beautiful. I have to ask you this question. I hope you don’t mind me asking, and I hope you don’t mind me focusing this question about JCVD, but is he able to do everything that he did before? I want to believe it. Is it real?

It’s real. It’s 100% real. Yeah. Are there stunt people? Of course. There have to be. Because we can’t risk him really hurting himself. But he can do every single thing. There’s not a thing that you see somebody doing that he’s not still able to do. And I would say he did 99% of it. Anything that would have killed him if it was messed up, he probably didn’t do. But everything else he did.

That’s awesome. And his gift … Did you see him do the sideways splits?

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He can still do that. (Laughs). Totally do that. Yeah. No, he’s amazing.

He’s amazing. And there’s a scene … you’ve mentioned it earlier where he’s doing the splits over the helicopter bay, is the pain on his face real? ‘Cause he looks like he’s in so much pain.

I mean, look, there was a lot of CGI that went into that particular moment, but he’s there. He’s doing the splits. He can do it all still but I think he has probably more aches and pains than he did thirty years ago. He takes stuff probably. He gets massages or whatever he does to help cartilage in his joints. That’s the kind of stuff that no matter what kind of shape you’re in, just over time, there’s pain. I mean there’s pain. I’m sure he has pain.

We run an action movie podcast and one of the questions I have to ask you is what action movies do you like? What are your favourite action movies?

The truth is that I have a really hard time watching action movies. By the way, even watching this show is a little bit hard for me. Even if I was there, my reflex is to avert my eyes. I know that it’s fake, but there’s a scene where the guy gets kicked off of the boat, off of the balcony of the boat. I watched that happen on set. I watched the stunt guy do that in real life and every time that scene happens, that moment happens, I can’t watch it. So, what are my favorite action movies? It’s really hard to… I loved Wonder Woman. I loved Guardians of the Galaxy. I just watched Thor. Thor was really cool I thought. Iron Man is really cool to me. I mean I get into them, but in terms of the action itself, it’s not my genre because I find it very difficult to watch.

And now you’re in something that’s just as cool as all of those things.

Thanks. I think so.

What’s the future of this show? I felt watching it that it does feel complete in itself, but at the same time you’ve left the door open. Do you have any idea of, 1) are we likely to see another one, and, 2) where on earth can it go from here?

When we were doing our press junket in Paris, I was openly telling reporters that season two had already been picked up. I mean I would sort of wink a little bit, but as far as I’m concerned, the second season is a go. But that I literally have no information to back that up. Yeah, we’re all kind of in the dark. I don’t think anyone knows what Amazon is planning. I know that Amazon’s very happy with the show. They’re marketing it a lot. So I personally would bet that we’ll have a season two, but I don’t know. And then in terms of what a season two would involve? I mean wouldn’t we all like it to involved the future?

It seems to be going that way.

It would be so cool if that ending bit was a sign of what’s to come, but I don’t know. Our writer, Dave Callaham, is an amazing and very creative brain and who knows? I think there’s a lot of places it could go. But based on the first season, every episode has action, every episode has some heart, every episode has self-referential jokes. So, I can only imagine that season two will follow suit.

And can you imagine yourself wearing that futuristic costume for an entire series?

No. God, no. Please God, no. Oh my God. Can I tell you? That gun first of all, that gun weighed like 40 pounds. And that wig. I mean those boots were impossible to walk in. Hopefully, if we do end up being futuristic in that way, we’ll get more comfortable clothes and props. Oh my God. (Laughs).

I had to freeze frame it to see if that was actually Kat Foster, because you look so completely different in that outfit.

I know it’s such a wild, insane look. I know it was very strange. Yes, that is actually me. And then it’s a baby Phylicia Rashad, and then Moises [Arias] with his tattoo and his whole thing. That was so fun. That moment was so fun. It was annoying because of all the props and the costume was annoying, but we had fun. My direction, I think, was B movie. That was the direction. “Be like you’re in the ending of a B movie.” And I was like “Oh okay.” And to me that meant something about William Shatner, you know? (Laughs). So then I was sort of channeling Williams Shatner somehow.

I guess that’s the only moment, now that I think about it, in the series where you get to be silly, really silly, just for a moment at the end.

It’s really silly. There’s other little things. There was  one moment in the agency where I kind of get to be a little bit silly, but yeah that ending moment for sure is the silliest I would say.

Yes. Now, I only have one more question for you. Which is better, Timecop or Looper?

(Laughs). This is so funny. Looper was just on TV the other night. Look I mean Looper‘s great but come on I mean it’s obviously Timecop.

It’s gotta be Timecop.

Gotta be Timecop.

Yeah. Bruce Willis and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, they don’t do the splits across their kitchen surfaces do they?

That’s what I’m saying. That’s what I’m saying, and there’s lots of prosthetics involved. I really feel like Timecop‘s the winner.

Yeah. I mean Jean-Claude, he does have to wear a bigger hairdo in the future. That’s about as prosthetic as he gets in that movie.

Right.